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ben
Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 8 Months ago
tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html

So, what do you guys (and gals) think about this? What informed your decision to schedule vaccinations or not?
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bobjr79
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 8 Months ago
Woooooow! I don't know how I didn't know this and I work with the DD community. I knew that it was unable to be proven but I had no idea what a corrupt D-bag that guy was.

We chose to go with the standard vaccine schedule that his pediatrician and the AAP recommends. When we asked the question about the separate vaccines and alternative schedules his Dr. reassured us that it was safe. She told us that her daughter had autism and that she had done extensive research to come to the conclusion that the MMR vaccine and the AAPs recommended vaccination schedule were safe.

Generally I tend to believe that there is always some aspect of truth when it comes to some conspiracy theories. In this case the study was fueled only by greed and not for the well being of children. I trust my sons Dr. even more now. I'll have to ask her about the guy being a corrupt d-bag though. I'm just curious what other pediatricians think of him now.
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TheDadAbides
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 8 Months ago
We decided to go with the standard schedule too. We interviewed three pediatricians, all of whom recommended the schedule. One of them even gave us a paper on the subject to read, she was so emphatic.

Frontline on PBS did a really good episode about the vaccine controversy about a month ago (does that mean I'm officially old? Me watching Frontline?) Anyway they dug into Wakefield pretty hard in the episode. They also talked about a couple of subsequent and really thorough studies that have been done in Denmark. Apparently Denmark National Health service keeps eerily meticulous records of its citizenry.

Anyway one of the studies compared autism diagnosis rate in children who received the MMR and in children who did not. The other compared diagnosis rates in children who received the MRR which was preserved by thymerisol (a mercury derivative) and rates after they introduced the thymerisol free version. Both studies found no difference.

I really sympathize with the parents say their kids were fine before the MMR and were completely different after the MMR. Far be it for me to second guess them, they know they kids children better than anyone else can. More importantly, I recognize that the autism activists genuinely want what is best for children. I just don't see the science to support their claim that the vaccines are the cause of autism.
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Daddy Clay
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controver
1 Year, 8 Months ago
Here's the DL take.

We did a standard schedule.

The Wakefield thing frustrates me to no end,made worse by the fact that his clinic is right here in Austin, Texas.

Quack.

I'm also not a fan of the Dr. Sears Jr extended plan. Seems like half measures trying to reassure parents with a significant downside risk and no demonstrated benefit.

But I'm an AAP guy and not afraid to admit it.
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bobjr79
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controver
1 Year, 8 Months ago
I just heard a news report that he has lost his licence to practice in the UK. So that leaves him free to practice here? What the hell?
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DaddyRoger
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controver
1 Year, 8 Months ago
It's not so easy to get license to practice medicine here. He would have to take the USMLE exams and start from the bottom of the ladder as an be an intern all over again.
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ben
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 8 Months ago
www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/health/bri...amp;utm_campaign=pbs

And PBS is covering this now.
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Daddy Clay
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controver
1 Year, 8 Months ago
As the cartoon that started the thread points out, there is also something scary about how the new media landscape can propagate uncurated junk around the world, stuff with no scientific basis, and it takes hold in the public imagination.

It reminds me that w have to teach kids how to filter the information they get. They have to learn to be their own editors. My daughter described that her 3rd grade teacher gave her an assignment to research a subject on Wikipedia. I need to have a follow up on that one. Are they also teaching what Wikipedia is?
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ben
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 8 Months ago
Slate's in on it now.

So, he did all sorts of painful procedures to kids without running through an ethics board or sometimes without consent. Then he didn't get the findings he wanted but published papers claiming them as true anyway. When the media wouldn't bite on one thing he changed to another? And people still believe this guy?
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ben
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 1 Month ago
This is back in the news and I can't figure out why. Anyone in touch with why it popped up again?
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Daddy Clay
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 1 Month ago
Wakefield is running a counter-offensive, and the media is delighted to give him a platform.
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bobjr79
Re:Cartoon about the MMR and Vaccination controversy.
1 Year, 1 Month ago
I think that the BMJ is just now getting around to accusing Wakefield of being an "elaborate fraud". Man, nice hustle BMJ.....
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